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		<title>Comment on Lulu Does Not Equal Random House by Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually people like that are so concerned with getting their work into print that they've blinded themselves in order to achieve it.  It's sad, to say the least and if they won't listen, you just hope that they come to their senses on their own before it's too late.  I think it's that feeling of "I'm so close, don't ruin it for me" that has them shunning all matters of advice.  Have you tried pointing her towards some agent blogs that expressly state against this type of thing?  Maybe reading something from someone that really is in the real publishing world would help.  But I do hope she comes around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually people like that are so concerned with getting their work into print that they&#8217;ve blinded themselves in order to achieve it.  It&#8217;s sad, to say the least and if they won&#8217;t listen, you just hope that they come to their senses on their own before it&#8217;s too late.  I think it&#8217;s that feeling of &#8220;I&#8217;m so close, don&#8217;t ruin it for me&#8221; that has them shunning all matters of advice.  Have you tried pointing her towards some agent blogs that expressly state against this type of thing?  Maybe reading something from someone that really is in the real publishing world would help.  But I do hope she comes around.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lulu Does Not Equal Random House by colbymarshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>colbymarshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently come into contact with a writer who had gotten caught up into a self-publishin house that was masquerading as a "literary agency" that will "print copies of your book before getting them in front of editors at major houses."  She kept trying to tell me it was how "publishing really worked" and I just didn't understand the business.  I said, "If you're paying someone to publish that book, you're not doing it the right way."  I just hope she figures that out before she spends tons of money on something she thinks is the real deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently come into contact with a writer who had gotten caught up into a self-publishin house that was masquerading as a &#8220;literary agency&#8221; that will &#8220;print copies of your book before getting them in front of editors at major houses.&#8221;  She kept trying to tell me it was how &#8220;publishing really worked&#8221; and I just didn&#8217;t understand the business.  I said, &#8220;If you&#8217;re paying someone to publish that book, you&#8217;re not doing it the right way.&#8221;  I just hope she figures that out before she spends tons of money on something she thinks is the real deal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guess The Root by Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I'll wait a few more days before revealing just where Previ comes from!  I'm sneaky like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I&#8217;ll wait a few more days before revealing just where Previ comes from!  I&#8217;m sneaky like that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guess The Root by cirellio</title>
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		<dc:creator>cirellio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds cool..reminds me a little bit of the Occuria.
Is the word 'previous'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds cool..reminds me a little bit of the Occuria.<br />
Is the word &#8216;previous&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guess The Root by Guess The Root &#171; Fantastical Imagination</title>
		<link>http://fantasticalimagination.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/guess-the-root/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Guess The Root &#171; Fantastical Imagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] least I&#8217;m continuing it.  That&#8217;s what counts.  To see the deal with this, check out this post.  Actually, a good excuse for the sporadic game would be that I had fewer mutated words than I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] least I&#8217;m continuing it.  That&#8217;s what counts.  To see the deal with this, check out this post.  Actually, a good excuse for the sporadic game would be that I had fewer mutated words than I [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lulu Does Not Equal Random House by Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, misterbooks!

Sarah, never a big fan of beanie babies.  I just didn't see the point.  Anyway, I have come across quite a few self-publishers and PublishAmerica victims that see me at just being jealous of their "success" and because their "published" and I'm not.  The Stephen King reference is far-reaching but the point is there.

Actually Lulu is POD.  POD is a technology, not a scam even though many of the scam publishers use POD technology in their operations.  The technology itself is a rather revolutionary technology that would save a lot of trees if the publishing world were to ever pick it up.  Unfortunately it's name has been soiled by vanity publishers like PublishAmerica.  I just found out last week that one of my long-time internet friends released her first book through PublishAmerica.  I want to ask her about it but I haven't figured out how to word what I want to say.  My heart broke when I saw that because she is a good writer and she deserves so much better than to have her work held hostage and not see a cent for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, misterbooks!</p>
<p>Sarah, never a big fan of beanie babies.  I just didn&#8217;t see the point.  Anyway, I have come across quite a few self-publishers and PublishAmerica victims that see me at just being jealous of their &#8220;success&#8221; and because their &#8220;published&#8221; and I&#8217;m not.  The Stephen King reference is far-reaching but the point is there.</p>
<p>Actually Lulu is POD.  POD is a technology, not a scam even though many of the scam publishers use POD technology in their operations.  The technology itself is a rather revolutionary technology that would save a lot of trees if the publishing world were to ever pick it up.  Unfortunately it&#8217;s name has been soiled by vanity publishers like PublishAmerica.  I just found out last week that one of my long-time internet friends released her first book through PublishAmerica.  I want to ask her about it but I haven&#8217;t figured out how to word what I want to say.  My heart broke when I saw that because she is a good writer and she deserves so much better than to have her work held hostage and not see a cent for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lulu Does Not Equal Random House by srsuleski</title>
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		<dc:creator>srsuleski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can't say I've ever met anyone who thought self publishing made them into Stephen King.  Perhaps I just haven't been hanging around the right blogs or what have you.

Mind I've read the hyperbole via the sales gimmicks of vanity presses or POD sites, but that doesn't really count, as naturally they're selling their service and want to make it sound like the greatest thing since beanie babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever met anyone who thought self publishing made them into Stephen King.  Perhaps I just haven&#8217;t been hanging around the right blogs or what have you.</p>
<p>Mind I&#8217;ve read the hyperbole via the sales gimmicks of vanity presses or POD sites, but that doesn&#8217;t really count, as naturally they&#8217;re selling their service and want to make it sound like the greatest thing since beanie babies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lulu Does Not Equal Random House by misterbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was a great article...you should send it to LuLu and become a "writer".  Har...har...har.  Actually you've made some very valied points and I agree with most of all you stated.  Vanity presses have their place, as you said, it's a niche thing.
Peace,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was a great article&#8230;you should send it to LuLu and become a &#8220;writer&#8221;.  Har&#8230;har&#8230;har.  Actually you&#8217;ve made some very valied points and I agree with most of all you stated.  Vanity presses have their place, as you said, it&#8217;s a niche thing.<br />
Peace,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pinned It! *headdesk* by I Can&#8217;t Feel My Fingers &#171; Fantastical Imagination</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Can&#8217;t Feel My Fingers &#171; Fantastical Imagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when writing directly to the laptop would save so much time and finger numbing? There&#8217;s a post here under the Coney Island Psyhic category where I say why. I just can&#8217;t type straight into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when writing directly to the laptop would save so much time and finger numbing? There&#8217;s a post here under the Coney Island Psyhic category where I say why. I just can&#8217;t type straight into [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Night Watch by Terry Pratchett by Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of the theory that that same moment is constantly happening in time hence no change can be made, I'm still set that the same exact thing can't happen every single time. Being human, we can't replicate exactly.  We can come close but not exact.  It's a flaw in the design.  Hence the repeat is bound to change, however slightly, thus changing something, however slightly, in the future.  That's my take on it and pretty much why I refuse to write about time travel.  I'll end up tying my brain in a knot.

And I think your last statement there is a bit reversed.  I think you mean the lack of chapters is denied.  And yes.  Unknowns new to the slush pile and without so much as s debut novel on their hands need to play as close to the rules as they can get.  We are not afforded the same luxuries and stylistic creativity as the money-makers like Pratchett simply because no one knows if we're good enough to get away with such things.  99% of the time, authors must play by the rules.  1% are actually good enough to be able to write something without chapters and get away with it.  The other 99% need to show that they have a modicum of control with their writing.  If an agent were to see this book in a slush pile from an unknown, they'd see a writer's inability to properly edit or control their writing.  I can't vouch for the content though since a slush pile varies by agent.

The bottom line is, if you're an unknown you play by the rules and you play it safe.  The chances of playing with context and style and getting shot down are enormously high in a pile where the odds are already stacked well against you.  Even if you can manage to impress with stylistic abnormalities in a query or a couple of pages, your book will be under much tighter scrutiny to see if the differences pay off, if they're pivitol to the writing or if the writer just got luck in the first 20 pages and it's a crap shoot after that.  From everything I've read from agents themselves, it's best not to shoot yourself in the foot from the get-go.  Write a good book and play by the rules.  The rope slackens A LOT if you turn into a money maker for the publisher.  They'll be willing to let you do anything if it makes them money but you need to prove yourself first.  They're much less willing to take their chances on something stylistically risky  than a standard book format when it comes to a new author.

As for head-hopping, I didn't find the narrative at all distanced from the characters.  Each section restricted itself to one character's POV in third person.  You were very much in their heads, in their voice and behind their eyes when it was time for them to tell their part of the story.  I fail to see the distance and thus to see how it's not head-hopping.  This is yet another instance of rule-braking for the known authors.  If an unknown were to send this a story with this much head-hopping in it, it'd get rejected as unfocused and lazy writing.  Essentially you need to earn your way into flipping the bird to standard writing style.  I'm sure Pratchett didn't start off where he is now, stylistically.  He had to earn his right to be able to head hop and not use chapters.

it's very frustrating but something, as a writer, I need to just grin and bear.  Personally, even if given the opportunity, I would still write with chapters.  I like the break ups like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the theory that that same moment is constantly happening in time hence no change can be made, I&#8217;m still set that the same exact thing can&#8217;t happen every single time. Being human, we can&#8217;t replicate exactly.  We can come close but not exact.  It&#8217;s a flaw in the design.  Hence the repeat is bound to change, however slightly, thus changing something, however slightly, in the future.  That&#8217;s my take on it and pretty much why I refuse to write about time travel.  I&#8217;ll end up tying my brain in a knot.</p>
<p>And I think your last statement there is a bit reversed.  I think you mean the lack of chapters is denied.  And yes.  Unknowns new to the slush pile and without so much as s debut novel on their hands need to play as close to the rules as they can get.  We are not afforded the same luxuries and stylistic creativity as the money-makers like Pratchett simply because no one knows if we&#8217;re good enough to get away with such things.  99% of the time, authors must play by the rules.  1% are actually good enough to be able to write something without chapters and get away with it.  The other 99% need to show that they have a modicum of control with their writing.  If an agent were to see this book in a slush pile from an unknown, they&#8217;d see a writer&#8217;s inability to properly edit or control their writing.  I can&#8217;t vouch for the content though since a slush pile varies by agent.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, if you&#8217;re an unknown you play by the rules and you play it safe.  The chances of playing with context and style and getting shot down are enormously high in a pile where the odds are already stacked well against you.  Even if you can manage to impress with stylistic abnormalities in a query or a couple of pages, your book will be under much tighter scrutiny to see if the differences pay off, if they&#8217;re pivitol to the writing or if the writer just got luck in the first 20 pages and it&#8217;s a crap shoot after that.  From everything I&#8217;ve read from agents themselves, it&#8217;s best not to shoot yourself in the foot from the get-go.  Write a good book and play by the rules.  The rope slackens A LOT if you turn into a money maker for the publisher.  They&#8217;ll be willing to let you do anything if it makes them money but you need to prove yourself first.  They&#8217;re much less willing to take their chances on something stylistically risky  than a standard book format when it comes to a new author.</p>
<p>As for head-hopping, I didn&#8217;t find the narrative at all distanced from the characters.  Each section restricted itself to one character&#8217;s POV in third person.  You were very much in their heads, in their voice and behind their eyes when it was time for them to tell their part of the story.  I fail to see the distance and thus to see how it&#8217;s not head-hopping.  This is yet another instance of rule-braking for the known authors.  If an unknown were to send this a story with this much head-hopping in it, it&#8217;d get rejected as unfocused and lazy writing.  Essentially you need to earn your way into flipping the bird to standard writing style.  I&#8217;m sure Pratchett didn&#8217;t start off where he is now, stylistically.  He had to earn his right to be able to head hop and not use chapters.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s very frustrating but something, as a writer, I need to just grin and bear.  Personally, even if given the opportunity, I would still write with chapters.  I like the break ups like that.</p>
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